Critsmcgee
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1 edit | Ashen Verdict Rep farming guide (ICC 10)
The new faction, The Ashen Verdict, give repuation rings similar to The Violet Eye (karazahn) and the Scale of Sands (Hyjal). You could just wait for things to run their natural course and get exalted when more and more bosses come out. Looking at how much rep you get weekly that wont happen until sometime in february-march assuming you run it weekly. So last weekend i was kind of bored on saturday afternoon. If you clear the first hallway of ICC 10 man you can run out and reset the raid to clear it again and again for more rep. After running some errands i decided to see just how much Ashen Rep i could get per-run and how many runs it would take to get exalted. .
42000rep for exalted
~750rep for non human
~820rep for human
If you did 25 man and 10 man then its about 3k rep.
39000/750 = 52 runs
39000/820 = 47 runs
So non humans will be clearing the place 52 times assuming they did the 25 man and 10 man versions.
With any rep grind the major thing you want to emphasize is speed. Not wiping is just as important because running back will waste time. Most people will not release when they die also because they will miss out on that rep while they are dead.
Group Comp
Over the 12+ hours i farmed on saturday i grouped with all of the different classes and came to some conclusions. Group make-up seems to the largest part of this. Most of the people you will group with, unless you have a guild behind you, will be pugs. I make sure and roughly screen them. Gear is not really that important if they know how to manage threat. Hunters and rogues are king for this trash. Here is two of the best group makups i went with.
Group #1
Tank - Paladin
Healer - Paladin
Healer - Shaman
DPS - Feral druid
DPS - Rogue (Combat)
DPS - Rogue (Assasination)
DPS - Hunter (MM)
DPS - Hunter (Sur)
DPS - Deathknight (Frost)
DPS - Warrior (Arms)
Group #2
Tank - Paladin
Tank - Druid
Healer - Paladin
Healer - Priest (Holy)
DPS - Rogue (combat)
DPS - Hunter
DPS - Mage
DPS - Warlock
DPS - Shaman (Elem)
DPS - Moonkin
The best tank for this is hands down a paladin. Dks work well also but paladins do so much damage. One of the pally tanks i had was doing over 7k in half tank half DPS gear on the AoE situations. The main issue with group 2 was the threat. Keeping threat through the duration of the adds is the main issue i see for even a paladin tank. I was doing 9-12k on the groups of adds and constantly having to MD every time because i was pushing threat. If i did get aggro then the stupid Chill of the throne Aura makes evasion almost useless. Make sure and have a hunter and a rogue at all times just for threat purposes. We had the DPS wait at least 2-3 seconds before dropping in. Vent is nice with at least the tanks. The DPS can just follow directions through chat. With the two tank setup we were able to split heals. Since ranged DPS dont take damage from the exploding AOE, we could pull the first two packs in the second room, and 5 man each of the side mode packs. Wiht the single tank setup, we could just plow through one side and then pull the center packs from that safe side.
Ice Crown Trash
First let me start off by saying that this trash is weird right now. Blizzard has said that its bugged. There are 8 small group trash pulls and then 4 large skeletons that give 75 rep per (82 for human). BoE ilevel 264 epics can drop, however the entire time that i ran this place i saw two epics so the drop rate is very low. First thing to remember is that all trash leashes at the door of the first room where the ashen verdict has setup a base camp. When the shit hits the fan its important to leash it all so save from having a total wipe. The first trash pack is just traditonal Exploding Skeletons. After you kill the first 2-3 then a few more patrolling mobs will come. When they die they do an AoE for 10k so it is very important that melee either run out or use some sort of damage reducing ability to survive multiple AoEs at once.
The second room has two small packs on both side. Before either tank enters this room you MUST have a rogue go in and check for spirit traps. When you locate the spirit traps you should go to the side that doesnt have one in order to clear some room for the large skeleton. When clearing the packs make sure the Servent of the thrones die first. Assign at least one ranged DPS to get people out of web wraps. Some people say kill the spiders but the servents hit for 10-12 and can hit mutiple people at once. Make sure and interrupt the glacial blast they do. After killing either one of the trash packs to the far left or right procede to kill the rear right/left pack. Since the spirit traps will only spawn in the center area, use the space you cleared on either side to clear the front center pack. Use the pillars to Ling of Sight the spiders. Although the spiders are deadly, kill the servants first. After clearing the front center pack, clear the rear center pack. There is a little area in the wall to LoS the mobs at the top of the stairs. Try and spread the raid out so that the glacial blast wont hit more than once person at a time.
After clearing the second room you want to have a rogue hunt out the spirit traps. If the trap is on the left side of the middle section then it will activate the left skeleton, right side for right skelly. Have which ever tank that is doing the skeletons get behind them when they are in statue form and lay down Consecration. Trip the traps one by one and kill both of the skeletons. VERY IMPORTANT, make sure all of the melee DPS are away before pulling. He will cleave for about 13-15k on leather. I died over 20 times this way from bad tanks. Make sure and disarm the large skeleton when you can. Heroism on these guys to bring them down faster. After clearing the second room there is just one left. If for some reason you do not activate find the spirit traps in the second room, then the skeletons will spawn when you activate the ones in the third room. Pulling the third room is really simple, LoS the spiders inside the room and then do that samething with the spirit traps as the last room. After clearing the last room run out, reset all instances and go at it again. This trash is not hard by any means, this whole proccess is just time comsuming. If you want your ilevel 277 ring, and the title "Of the Ashen Verdict" then you can go and do this in one saturday.
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Tehuno
join:2005-01-18
Bartlesville, OK | we are gonna be in here for a long, long time. i really dont want to hate going in there during the 1st week lol. |
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djlar
join:2009-04-23
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Right now the respawn rate is very high, I say 30 to 45 mins tops, we were doing Lady's trash, until it bugged out and you couldn't teleport w/o being ganked by them and you couldn't get out of combat after engaging so the tele didn't work the only option was run all the way there and kill them all again, but group had DCing or leaving members we ran out of replacements, only got to friendly and that's it.. |
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Critsmcgee
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join:2009-02-25
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said by Tehuno  :we are gonna be in here for a long, long time. i really dont want to hate going in there during the 1st week lol. Yea i thought i would already HATE the trash after week one. I think though that clearing it this many times has made me a resident expert. Now i will almost never die again on that first trash and I really like the new title and ring. Some people in my guild have been farming ICC 5 man Heroic trash for the Hilts. Theres a priest that has sold 5 so far for about 7k apop. I have gotten 2 hilts and sold them both for 6k.
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Staulkor
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We have been purposely tripping those traps too, just to get the rep. I'm sure eventually when people don't care about the rep as much anymore, people will be asking us Rogues to disarm them.
We found that after you defeat Lady Deathwisper, and after you clear the Horde trash that doesn't give any rep... if you keep walking past where you're supposed to get on the Gunship, there's some scourge trash that gives rep. We walked all the way around that ring clearing that just for the rep too. |
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uurukaitwo
@uiuc.edu | reply to Critsmcgee
If you keep reseting the instance before killing any bosses. You can still kill the bosses after these restes correct? |
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Critsmcgee
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| said by uurukaitwo :
If you keep reseting the instance before killing any bosses. You can still kill the bosses after these restes correct?
Thats correct. You will not be saved if you keep reseting it. Although i doubt anyone could be this fast, but you are limited to about 5 resets an hour.
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Chauncey
join:2009-11-23 | reply to Critsmcgee
I don't have 12+ hours to farm rep for a rind upgrade. |
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Critsmcgee
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join:2009-02-25
| said by Chauncey :I don't have 12+ hours to farm rep for a rind upgrade. Then let things run their natural course. With fairly steady raiding you will get exalted eventually. This guide is for the people that do have that kind of time.
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Swillx
join:2009-01-12 | I don't see a problem with rep farming at all to be honest. Your still earning that rep IMO. Minus bosses the exact same way you would be otherwise..just across a few weeks. |
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Critsmcgee
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join:2009-02-25 | Also its been nice being one of the only people running around with the "of the ashen verdict" title. I get alot of questions, and alot of sneers from the horde.
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Hpower
Roflmao
join:2000-06-08
Glendale, CA | reply to Critsmcgee
If I only had so much free time  |
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Antonica
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join:2002-09-02
clubs: | ditto, not enough time to waste farming something that I'm going to get eventually. |
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Reanimator
join:2008-11-22
Matthews, NC | reply to Critsmcgee
I heard they nerfed this in the last mini patch to make this reset rep farming much less attractive. |
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Critsmcgee
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| said by Reanimator :I heard they nerfed this in the last mini patch to make this reset rep farming much less attractive. I heard this too but i havent read it anywhere. I hope they nerf it and dont take away the rings. If they do take away the rings im gonna be pissed.
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Reanimator
join:2008-11-22
Matthews, NC
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Guildmembers were in there looking to rake in some rep, the front skellies weren't giving rep, and neither were the opposite faction guys before airship. I think they said the big trap skellies were still giving rep but at a lower rate. Perhaps they will bump up the rep gain from boss kills instead. |
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Adalicia
PoM Nom Nom 'Mon
join:2009-10-13
| The first set of mobs in the entrance never gave rep, at least the ones that respawned and pathed their way into the room. Everything else after that point should.
For a single full clear of all the base trash (not going out of our way to clear trash before the gunship) I personally ended up just shy of 1900 rep, including all four bosses. |
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longstreet
join:2004-11-14
Plano, TX | This is not wholly true.
The Horde/Alliance trash before the airship does not give rep |
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Ghastlyone
join:2009-01-07
North Las Vegas, NV | reply to Critsmcgee
So can anyone confirm the Rep now? Did they remove any of it from the first room from this "hotfix" they did? |
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NYlock78
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join:2009-04-01
Paterson, NJ | reply to Critsmcgee
So raiders got screwed out of rep cause some people exploited this? So when I go in once a week I'm going to get less huh. I hope you exalted people lose your rings |
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